Counselors report being stunned by the decisions coming out of sn University of California and Cal State campuses. Could out-of-state institutions see a better than normal yield of Californians? The college counselor was stunned. One of her best students was accepted to Washington University in St. He has seen even stronger students -- among the top of Horney Vernazza girls school's graduating class -- getting rejected from UC San Diego.
Parents -- many of whom rely on out-of-date senses of colleges' competitiveness -- are particularly shocked. UCLA and Berkeley have for years been long shots for all applicants. They reject many students with perfect SAT scores and grade point averages. So while many applicants are crushed by rejections at those two campuses, their counselors aren't surprised. The difference this year, counselors say, is Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb other UC campuses and some California State campuses have gone up significantly in competitiveness.
Counselors are of course Sex Dating Avonia first to admit that admissions to highly competitive institutions is not a formula. Some students with particular qualities athletic skill would be a good example are routinely admitted to institutions even though they have lower grades and test scores than others who are rejected.
Some students' interests make them particularly good matches for some colleges. But leaving aside students with special qualities, counselors say they see clear and consistent patterns in how applicants from their high schools are treated. And they track Naughty Personals mova Ventura women online flirting carefully so they can offer good advice to the next class of students.
Rebecca Stuart-Orlowski, a private counselor in California, Disgo she is seeing "unusual trends" this year.
Several applicants report being rejected by all the UC campuses to which they have applied but being admitted Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb competitive private liberal arts colleges in New England. Advising of students is changing. A school counselor in Northern California said it is the "middle group" within Californa University of California where he is seeing change.
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He has a senior with straight A's who was wait-listed at Santa Barbara. At Davis and San Diego, "students we assumed would be strong somenoe are being wait-listed. As for this year's seniors, he said, "they are panicking. Several counselors also said that they would encourage students to remember the way many admissions officers consider "demonstrated interest" Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb favor applicants who have visited campus, and view those who apply without visiting as people who are using the college as a fallback.
Others said that yields could be hard to predict for out-of-state colleges that recruit top students in California. Many Californians have in the past turned down top out-of-state institutions for UC campuses that charge a fraction of the cost of private institutions.
Such students may not have the option going ahead. One theory in California is that this year's high school seniors are paying for last year's serious miscalculation at UC Irvine.
Last year, about more accepted applicants than expected sent in deposits to enroll at Irvine, bringing the first-year class to an unexpectedly large 7, Irvine Califormia revoked the acceptances of of those new studentssaying z they had not turned in all required forms.
Many complained at the time that Irvine was taking a much tougher fo normal stand on Calufornia forms, apparently to get out of the problem of having so many unexpected freshmen. Amid much Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb criticism, Irvine then revoked the revocations and made it possible for most of those students to enroll. Irvine officials consistently denied that they were enforcing the rules just to deal with the extra freshmen, but many didn't believe soomeone university.
Many counselors say they assume Califkrnia Irvine experience -- illustrating the challenge of predicting yields in California -- may have prompted UC campuses to use wait lists to manage their yields, rather than risk having several hundred more freshmen than planned show Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb. Further, the University of California Board of Regents in January adopted a policy barring its campuses from doing what many assume Irvine did last year. Under the new policy, colleges may require verification of various matters such as test scores and transcripts before Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb, but they are barred from using the verification process for any reason other than verification, and they are required to provide an appeals process for any who think they are having admissions offers revoked for inappropriate reasons.
University of California officials note that they are still sending out admissions decisions and say that it's too early to produce figures on admit rates, or to discuss the trends that counselors say they are seeing. But numbers are available for total applications for the coming fall. And while UC campuses are edging up Bbw personals canada total size, the Clean professional wm looking for regular fun increases are much larger.
Total unduplicated applications for undergraduate admission to the University of California were up 5. UC Riverside saw the largest percentage increase -- Flr Diego's total is up 9. Nude women Cambridge Massachusetts is not far behind at 95, applications, up 8.
By way of comparison, Harvard University received just under 40, applications last year. Application totals like those guarantee shrinking admit rates Friends with benefits 18 Watertown 18 the sort many applicants are experiencing this year. Leading private institutions in California are seeing similar shifts.
Stanford University is in many respects similar to Berkeley and simply not considered a sure thing for anyone. As several of the above anecdotes indicate, Cal State campuses are also becoming a stretch for many, in part because of increasing demand. A growing number of Cal State campuses operate under "impaction," in Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb they are unable to admit qualified applicants and so operate with different standards for different majors, so that it becomes much more difficult to be admitted to high-demand programs, such as those in STEM fields.
Here are details on how this plays out at San Jose State University. The California State University system has adopted a new approach such that, in the future, those who meet Cook Islands man 25 seeking intimacy State admissions requirements and who are rejected by the campuses to which they apply Looking for someone San Diego California or maybe a sb receive an offer for admission to another Cal State campus.
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